Notion 3

Kevin Administrator The Management Posts: 5,037	Notion 3 Jul 5, 2011 10:24:12 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Kevin on Jul 5, 2011 10:24:12 GMT Has anyone tried this program at all?
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Notion 3 Jul 5, 2011 12:51:32 GMT

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No, never have. But I just checked it out. It looks similar to Sibelius software, although the sounds seemed to be far superior; if those are the basic sounds that come with the program. Speaking of which, I need some new sounds, been using what came with Sib. 6
Any suggestions of what is good and easily compatible with Sibelius 6?

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Notion 3 Jul 5, 2011 13:14:51 GMT

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All comes doen to definition of what is good reall Mike.

I have GPO 4 which hooks up really well and EWQL Goliath which has taken some getting used to but is so much better. Listen to When Our Hopes Were High in my juke box to get an idea, and I am only a novice. It is primarily for use with a DAW but I feel I have not enough time to learn how yo use one of those.

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michaelm Members passed away Posts: 187	Notion 3 Jul 7, 2011 16:58:38 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by michaelm on Jul 7, 2011 16:58:38 GMT Great sounds Kevin. Wonderful arrangement, and a beautiful composition.

Kevin Administrator The Management Posts: 5,037	Notion 3 Jul 8, 2011 6:52:28 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Kevin on Jul 8, 2011 6:52:28 GMT Jul 7, 2011 16:58:38 GMT michaelm said: Great sounds Kevin. Wonderful arrangement, and a beautiful composition. What is this relating to Mike?!
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michaelm Members passed away Posts: 187	Notion 3 Jul 8, 2011 11:12:57 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by michaelm on Jul 8, 2011 11:12:57 GMT When Our Hopes Were High

Kevin Administrator The Management Posts: 5,037	Notion 3 Jul 8, 2011 11:24:40 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Kevin on Jul 8, 2011 11:24:40 GMT Does anyone know of anyone that uses it? I would love a first hand appraisal before I commit any money!
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Notion 3 Jul 8, 2011 23:12:51 GMT

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Post by adrianallan on Jul 8, 2011 23:12:51 GMT

Kevin, check this thread on another forum

www.vi-control.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3572096&no=1#3572096

Rob really knows his stuff (as an all-round musician) so I would trust what he's saying.

I'm sure you are aware of the discount for Sibelius users - they just want some proof of ownership of sibelius.

I have looked into Notion quite a lot and know about it.

Basically it tries to bridge the gap between notation and sequencer, so you can flip between the two. It maybe just the thing for you (I know you're not confident with sequencers).

However the current view (predictably) is that it comes out as an average sequencer and an average notation application. It has a lot to catch up in both fields. You won't get a print out like Sibelius, but for you it might be a gentler route into sequncing -especially at the much discounted price.

Surely in the future all progams will be able to flip from notation to sequencer - the idea of exporting files from sibleius to cubase etc is fundamentally inefficient.

Kevin Administrator The Management Posts: 5,037	Notion 3 Jul 9, 2011 7:48:26 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Kevin on Jul 9, 2011 7:48:26 GMT Where do you find out about a discount then Adrian? Can you transfer files between programms?
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adrianallan Bach Posts: 668	Notion 3 Jul 9, 2011 9:37:56 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by adrianallan on Jul 9, 2011 9:37:56 GMT Notion Up-grade I'm sure you'll want it at this price! Yes you can import sibelius files - or maybe you have to export as midi. look at the FAQ page on notion
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Kevin Administrator The Management Posts: 5,037	Notion 3 Jul 9, 2011 9:44:19 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Kevin on Jul 9, 2011 9:44:19 GMT Great price however do they not know that you cannot save sibelius files as xml?
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adrianallan Bach Posts: 668	Notion 3 Jul 9, 2011 20:05:30 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by adrianallan on Jul 9, 2011 20:05:30 GMT yes, so you would have to export them as midi which misses a lot of score detail why on earth does sibelius not export XML? always been a mystery to me!

Kevin Administrator The Management Posts: 5,037	Notion 3 Jul 10, 2011 8:00:57 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Kevin on Jul 10, 2011 8:00:57 GMT I have just found the plug in that you need to create Xml files!! Recordare Plug In $200! So that blows away the discount that they offer and my chances of having a go!
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Notion 3 Jul 14, 2011 13:21:06 GMT

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Jul 9, 2011 20:05:30 GMT adrianallan said:

yes, so you would have to export them as midi which misses a lot of score detail

why on earth does sibelius not export XML? always been a mystery to me!

Business decision. By making it easy to open Finale files in Sibelius and not the reverse leads to a better situation for Sibelius/Avid.

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Kevin Administrator The Management Posts: 5,037	Notion 3 Jul 14, 2011 14:41:58 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Kevin on Jul 14, 2011 14:41:58 GMT Have you had any experience of it at all Steve?
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Notion 3 Jul 16, 2011 13:04:26 GMT

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Post by steve on Jul 16, 2011 13:04:26 GMT

Notation? No. I downloaded a Finale demo once (maybe 2010? or '09?) but couldn't make heads or tails of it. I'm a real fan of software being simple and easy to use. It's my personal opinion that complicated software is merely poorly designed software. Put the onus on the user instead of the programmer - exactly the opposite of the true usefulness of software; i.e. the ability to appear "like magic".

I've heard the sounds with Notation are pretty good but the notation aspects less so, but I've not been feeling to exploratory lately!

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Kevin Administrator The Management Posts: 5,037	Notion 3 Jul 16, 2011 16:32:23 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Kevin on Jul 16, 2011 16:32:23 GMT That is pretty much what I have heard as well Steve. The sounds should be good, they are LSO samples! One day the powers are going to realise that there is a big narket for a notation programme that provides amazing sounds without having to join programmes!
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steve Bach P.A. To the management. Posts: 673	Notion 3 Jul 17, 2011 4:42:28 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by steve on Jul 17, 2011 4:42:28 GMT I agree completely - it's just a matter of time. Oh, and sorry about calling it Notation, I see now it is called Notion! Oh well...
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Kevin Administrator The Management Posts: 5,037	Notion 3 Jul 17, 2011 6:42:20 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Kevin on Jul 17, 2011 6:42:20 GMT Maybe Sib 7 might provide us with the carrot to upgrade!
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