Time for some Heavy Jazz....

[macetheace]

....because the tune is about an Elephant.






soundcloud.com/mason-gregory-wright/a-trumpeting-pachyderm



www.scoreexchange.com/scores/a-trumpeting-pachyderm-612647.html

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A Trumpeting Pachyderm.sib (60.12 KB)

[Kevin]

Good idea to add chord symbols to at least the keyboard part.

[macetheace]

Okay. Here it is.

A Trumpeting Pachyderm.sib (67.38 KB)

[Kevin]

A few other things as well.

1. Trumpet should be in B flat not C
2. Drum Kit should be notated on one staff.
3. The score should use transposed parts.
4. Hide the piano notes, just show the chords
5. Maybe add chords to the bass part as well.

That will do for now!

[dko22]

I actually found this rather fun, though I'd have no doubt written even more anarchic music as we got towards the climax near the end.

[macetheace]

Kevin: I made the Trumpet a Bb Trumpet. I transposed the score for the different instruments.

I don't know how to merge the Drum parts.

I don't hide parts. I added "Ad lib if desired" to the piano part.

I don't see the point in adding chords to the bass part.


Thanks for your help.A Trumpeting Pachyderm 2.sib (67.37 KB)

[macetheace]

dko: If you want to rewrite the ending, I'm open to a collaboration.

[dko22]

it's OK -- I expect our tastes would ultimately be a bit different and I'm busy on my latest string quartet at the moment. Thanks for the offer, anyway!

[macetheace]

Alright. Sure.

[Kevin]

On holiday at the moment but will check when I return.

[Kevin]

1. Please use the dynamics popover rather than writing them.
2. FFF to f in Piano part not a playable type of instruction.
3. Please use transposed parts in the score.
4. You must be able to write all the drum kit parts into one stave?
5. The piano part is not how players in this style would see.
6. Jazz music has a lot of articulations especially in the wind parts.
7 Bar 22 repeated accidentals in the piano part. Probably elsewhere as well.
8. Big ask of the trumpet player in places.

[macetheace]

1. Okay, done.

2. It is a big jump. I corrected it.

3. Okay, I did.

4. The reason I write it on two staves (or more) in my pieces is because it is easy for me to visualize while composing. If you have a method to merge them, please provide it.

5. I'm not going to hide the piano part. Did you mean that, or something else?

6. I articulated all of the wind instruments, brass, and bass. Sounds better. The performance setting in Sibelius is set to heavy swing.

7. Was corrected. Checked other possible similar errors.

8. I'll label the piece, when completed, as pertaining to grade 7+ skill level. I want the piece to avoid feeling bland (or beige, as the term goes) so I usually include high registering notes.


Here is what I have so far...

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A Trumpeting Pachyderm 2.sib (67.54 KB)

[Kevin]

1. Very little use of dynamics. Just seems loud all the way.
2. Okay
3. The parts in the score are in concert pitch, not transposed
4. I use Dorico these days but there has to be a way to write a drum kit part on one stave.
5. Look at some piano parts in jazz band scores to see what I mean.
6. Okay
7. Okay
8. The trumpet part goes up beyond grade 7+! In such a small band it would be difficult for the player to control at that range.

[macetheace]

1. I changed the initial saxophone parts to Forte' (rather than double Forte'). The sound level was chaffing my ear a bit after they were articulated. Then I matched them with the brass double forte' when they came in. We are dealing with an Elephant, so maybe loud almost throughout is somewhat appropriate.

3. I'm not sure I know what you mean. I'm going to include a PDF file with the piece, to make sure you are seeing what I am seeing.

4. I don't know how to do it. If anyone does, please inform me.

5. I looked at some piano pieces on Score Exchange. I am still unclear what you mean. The piece has Treble and Bass Clef for piano. That's all I see in the half dozen examples I looked at. If you could give me an example of what you mean, that would demonstrate what you are talking about.

8. The new version is transposed down a whole tone. A high F is easier to reach than a high G for trumpet.

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A Trumpeting Pachyderm 2.sib (66.93 KB)

A Trumpeting Pachyderm 2 - Full Score.pdf (135.27 KB)

[Kevin]

Modern jazz combo.sib (249.83 KB)

This is taken from an example file in Sibelius.

High F is HIGH!

[macetheace]

Kevin, can you provide a link? I was unable to open that file due to my older version of Sibelius.

I know high F is kinda high, but I knew trumpeters that could play it in band. It's not high for a trombonist, I knew plenty who could hit above that.

[Kevin]

Obviously I do not know which version of Sibelius you use but I would have thought that they all were able to write a basic drum kit part.

[macetheace]

I use version 7.1.3. I composed the drum part myself.

[Kevin]

[macetheace]

Okay. Here is the update...


A Trumpeting Pachyderm 2.sib (66.73 KB)

[Kevin]

You need to have tails for cymbal always pointing above the stave and not into it. I am not sure why you change the notehead on the cymbal part every now and then.

You have gone back to a concert pitch score and not a transposed one.

[macetheace]

Okay, I flipped the stems on the cymbal parts. I think I transposed the score already, I'm sending you an image of the screen so you can see it...

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A Trumpeting Pachyderm 2.sib (67.03 KB)

[Kevin]

]Bar 2 onwards to 5 needs the snare drum part stems going down.
Bar 29 and others need the two notes lining up.
Bar 48 only one set of rests.
Bar 50 onwards the cymbal notehead is not the same as it was previously.
Bar 69 remove the rests and lineup the notes
Bars 56/57 trumpet part too high for a small ensemble
Shame the sax parts are resting for 21 bars at the end.
The keyboard part just needs to have chord symbols and slash notation instead of written notes
The drum kit part does not have any bass drum either.

[macetheace]

I had some new ideas, I'll share them here.

[macetheace]

Kevin, you said...


Bar 2 onwards to 5 needs the snare drum part stems going down.
Bar 29 and others need the two notes lining up.
Bar 48 only one set of rests.
Bar 50 onwards the cymbal notehead is not the same as it was previously.
Bar 69 remove the rests and lineup the notes
Bars 56/57 trumpet part too high for a small ensemble
Shame the sax parts are resting for 21 bars at the end.
The keyboard part just needs to have chord symbols and slash notation instead of written notes
The drum kit part does not have any bass drum either.

1. I adjusted bars 2 to 5.

2. Not sure what instrument you mean. I changed bar thirty, I took out the extra rests.

3. I eliminated extra rests in bar 48.

4. That is deliberate. I changed the type of cymbal.

5. Rests removed.

6. I don't think the trumpet part is too high.

7. I added additional sax parts

8. I don't want to do slash symbols on this one. I think it would detract. I added "ad lib if desired". I think that is enough.

9. Bass drum was added.




soundcloud.com/mason-gregory-wright/a-trumpeting-pachyderm

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A Trumpeting Pachyderm 3.sib (68.12 KB)

[Kevin]

incorrect voices for the drum kitYou must be using incorrect voices for the drum kit. The notes should line up on the beat. eg cymbal, snare drum and bass drum should line up when played together.

You have some of it correct, just correct the others.

Slash notation is what is used when ad lib. As long as chord symbols are there.