Soft. Sibelius buying

[Christian Natta]

Dear collegues:
I'm buying on this days Sibelius Software.
I need the advice from you.
I want this program for compose. I have Windows 7, I need only for do midi, and for notation.
I want the best sounds also for Orchestra, and specifically for all winds and brass sounds.
Which version and paths do you recommend me to buy?
Also, what you consider is a weak point of the Software?
All suggestions, advices and recomendations  will be very welcomed.
Thank you a lot
Christian

[Kevin]

Will you be downloading the program or purchasing discs?

[Christian Natta]

I've contacted Avid Store, I told them this ask that I made here, and I'm waiting for them answer. I don't know really what is best. Here in Argentina they are not stores that sells Sibelius, so I think they will tell me if I have to download or they send me the discs.

[Kevin]

It is a large program, about 36gb so it would take a long time to download the program and all the sound files.

Here is an example on EBay

Look at this on eBay:

Avid Sibelius 7 PRO Notation and Production Software RETAIL BOX Academic Faculty

bit.ly/10agALR

[Christian Natta]

Great! thanks Kevin. I was wondering if works OK with midi?
And for get nice sounds? Orchestral and specifficaly for winds of all tipe and brass?. Is for making then mp3 with nice sounds based on midi?
Thank you

[Kevin]

Maybe someone else has experience of these things?

[wizzarts]

Hi Christian,

this is good news....

Sibelius has a very short time of incorporation. The workflow is very intuitive. I prefer to name it a composer-tool rather than a notation-soft.

When it comes to prof. engraving there are some leaks. But there are a lot of free plugins which can be a good help.
Also Avid is collecting ideas for the next version and a lot of them are about engraving. So they do their best to improve the soft.

What do you mean by "the best sounds"? Well, Sibelius comes along with a compilation of the Garritan libraries which cover a good spectrum of instruments.
These are okay-sounds but it depends on the purpose for what you want to use them. Also you can improve them with some nice tricks (w/o buying other libs or a DAW)

As you can imaging when it comes to sounds one can hear the difference between Garritan (159,- Euro) and, lets say, the VSL-complete (6598,- Euro)....

So, if you only what to create sound-samples of your compositions, with some tweaking the build-in-liberary is fair enough.

And the biggest advantage is that a lot of people here are willing help you when you are struggling with whatever.

So in short:
Great workflow
okay sounds
very kind comunity (and easy exchange for some helping hands)
time-saver when it comes to parts

I would say... go for it...

[wizzarts]

Hi Christian,

sorry, I was writing my post while the conversation was going on

Before I can answer your question here are some for you....

1) Do you mean external midi-devices?

Well, this depends on the devices which is connected to your computer. But when the driver is installed the very-most of all common devices are recognized directly when opening Sibelius...

2)... or do you mean the internal midi-procedures?

All is about midi.... even VST. Sibelius is notation-orientated so a lot of midi-functions are conected to words or signs so that you have a steady work-flow. Special midi-commands can be added to the score with hidden commands. Also the common commands are available in a so-called dictionary where you can edit/create/assign new words/signs/articulations/line with specific midi-commands.
Only freaks like me are calling for more but also there are good and not so expencive solutions in sight for my needs.


This is what you can do with the build-in sounds...
But I can show some tricks to tweak those...

Please note that the engine looks a bit different in Sibelius - this is the stand-alone version...





This is about Sibelius and sounds in general....



Hope that helps...

[Christian Natta]

Thank's a lot!!!!!
I'm quite sure that the sounds of the program will be enough for me.
This is great, I'll buy it this next week or two.
Thank's lot, you're very kind
Christian

[Christian Natta]

Sorry I forgot. Do you think Sibelius 7 is better than 5?
They are a lot of diferences?
If you get time just say to simply if it's better enough to buy 7 and not 5.
Hug

[wizzarts]

Hey friend,

absolutely.... at least the magnetic layout intodruced with version 6 helps so much to save time.
I never would recommend to use the Sib5 instead of Sib7 when you have the choice....

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[allanh]

Hi Christian

May I add my bit to this conversation. All my music I have uploaded here and to Soundcloud and ScoreExchange, ONLY uses Sib. 7 sounds.

I do not have any other device or software to enhance any sounds ( although I am looking into getting some).

Personally, I think the sounds I get are sufficient for what I hear in my head. Of course, the sound of a real live orchestra greatly outweighs any electronic sound - IMO.

I would go for the Sib. 7 even though it is a bit expensive.

Allan

[Christian Natta]

Thank you friends, I really get an idea now. I guess Sibelius 7 is all I need.
Anyway I take all advices.
Then when I have it I'll tell you.
Thank's a lot
Christian

[wizzarts]

Hi Christian,

look what I have found.... I guess we both will have to sing a lot in the streets to get all the money to buy this library.

But also this is the best Brass/Woodwind library I have ever heard....


some cool demos....:
www.fablesounds.com/BBB-Menu-audio-demos.htm

I have put it onto my wish-list although I know it will take a life-time to get it....

[Christian Natta]

We'll see. give me some ytime and maybe we can get it. Take patience, and I'll try to get that sounds also, and share with you Andy. Let me se what I can do about it.
You can apply those sounds perfectly to Sib 7?
Give me some time and I'll do my best to get that.
Hug
Christian

[wizzarts]

hey, don't worry... this fun-stuff will cost 2225,- $ .... and has 208 Gb.... so.... please just don't even think about it....

Chris Hein Horns Complete Pro is the second choice of Sounds you can get.

The Broadway Big Band is far too expencive for now.... so...

Also what would life be if there are no dreams anymore... ?

with a tear and a smile....
see you soon

3ndy