A Joint Venture

[Kevin]

I was wondering if any of you would like to do something along the lines of the "Hot Potato" from sib mus?

[michaelm]

Sure, I would like that.

[Kevin]

Like the Magnificent Seven, then there was two!

[Deleted]

Oct 8, 2010 9:05:29 GMT Kevin said:

I was wondering if any of you would like to do something along the lines of the "Hot Potato" from sib mus?

I don't even know what that means....

[Kevin]

Oct 8, 2010 13:32:31 GMT @peterg said:

Oct 8, 2010 9:05:29 GMT Kevin said:

I was wondering if any of you would like to do something along the lines of the "Hot Potato" from sib mus?

I don't even know what that means....

Sorry Peter! What happens is a few guys volunteer to take part in the composition of a piece for a given instrumentation. They all add a number of bars to a piece started by someone. The idea being that it has to be playable and have some kind of musical flow to it without sacrificing one's individuality.

[Deleted]

Sounds interesting.

[adrianallan]

I might give it a go, but you have to bear in mind that such pieces have a novelty value but rarely sound either coherent or structurally sound, for obvious reasons. I see it as a bit of fun, and that's what it could be.

[Kevin]

That is the idea Adrian. It would be good if each section could morph from one persosn style to the other!

Now we have four.

[Deleted]

I'm up for that - so I think we're now 5!

Regards - DK

[Kevin]

Don't forget to vote Dorian!

[Deleted]

Sorry - I did vote but forgot to click on the 'submit vote' button!

[Kevin]

It's official, now we have 5. 2 to find then we shall be the Magnificent Seven!

[michaelm]

What happened to the joint venture? Is it still taking place?

[Kevin]

Absolutely Mike. Can we find the other two then we can move on with it. I am sure that it will be fun!

[Deleted]

Hi - sorry I've been 'off' for a while but had some laptop trouble so was internet deprived.

All sorted now! Cheers - DK

[Kevin]

Right I need to know what version of sibelius you all have so that the music can be read by everybody.

[Kevin]

Okay here we go. Purposely small opening. Please feel free to add your contribution. It will work like this.

1. Leave a post stating that you are adding to the piece to prevent any doubling up.
2. Export as a Sib 3 file so that all sibelius users can add to it.
3. Continuity is king with this. Add as much or as little as you wish then post it for whoever wants to go next.(Please see 1. above)

Over to the next one!

Nearly forgot, keep it playable!

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[michaelm]

Kevin, I'm using Sibelius version 5

[Deleted]

Let me go next since I do not have extensive experience writing for orchestra. I have completed the next 4 bars so far and I will post what I have by Monday evening. I use Sibelius 6 but am able to export to Sibelius 3.

[Deleted]

Attached is the file that belongs in the other thread about members composing a piece together. This is the first part of what I have done and I would welcome any comments. This is just the first draft of my part of the piece.

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[Deleted]

I tried to attach the file for my bit of work on this here but was unable to do so -- I could not find an attachment button -- so I have posted it in the Members section under my own name. I just want to know if everyone thinks I am 'on the right track' with what I have done so far. Thanks.

[Kevin]

Nov 20, 2010 19:04:24 GMT michaelm said:

Kevin, I'm using Sibelius version 5

Thanks for letting me know. You can export the file as a sib 2,3,4 then.

[Kevin]

Nov 20, 2010 20:40:02 GMT @annegoodwin said:

I tried to attach the file for my bit of work on this here but was unable to do so -- I could not find an attachment button -- so I have posted it in the Members section under my own name. I just want to know if everyone thinks I am 'on the right track' with what I have done so far. Thanks.

Did you use the quick reply or the reply button at the bottom of these posts? You ave to use the one at the bottom to get the facility to attatch things Anne.

Try not to use semi quavers with semiquaver rests, staccato quavers read easier.

[Deleted]

It was my goal today to complete up to 44 measures and I have done that. I will probably leave off at this point unless told that I really should add more. I will save tomorrow for making any necessary corrections to the score. After tomorrow, I will not have time to work on this for a very long time. Therefore, I will hand the score off to someone else. This is my very first attempt at composing for orchestra and for better or worse, I hope you enjoy it.

Please log in to download the attachment.

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[Deleted]

Okay, I've tweaked one or two things in the score. I'm not sure if I should be adding more expression/dynamics markings; at the moment, I'm making decisions about those based on what I'm hearing on the playback by Sibelius. If I knew more about instrumentation and orchestration, then perhaps I would be adding more in ...

I will look forward to watching this piece develop. For me, as I was working on this, the music seemed to be 'telling a story.' And so, I will look forward to seeing how the 'story' unfolds!

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[Kevin]

A few observations Anne (if that is okay)
1. Dynamics please!
2. Bar 17 please indicate the legato by adding slurs in the place you want them.
3. The pause in Bar 21 needs to be indicated on all the parts where you want it to occur.
4. The two notes in the tuba part and trombone part need to be edited as there is only one player on each.
5. Inn bar 23 etc on the string part it would be better to write staccato quavers rather than semi's with semiquaver rests. Try it and see!
6. The scoring thins out after this, is this what you are intending Anne?

[Deleted]

Attached is a re-worked version with most of your suggestions incorporated Kevin. I will look at this again on the weekend. I did what I could with the time that I have at present.

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[Deleted]

Attached is the latest version of this piece. If anyone wishes, I can also attach the Sibelius 6 file (or export the file to Sibelius 2, 4 or 5) as well as provide a pdf. For the moment, I am attaching the (exported) Sibelius 3 file that Kevin has requested us to do.

I've discussed with Kevin that I would perhaps like to try and complete an entire movement. I think this would make it easier for all of us in terms of coherence. This will involve another two months of work for me however.

In the meantime, I welcome any comments on what has so far been composed. Thanks!

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[Deleted]

I just thought I would report that I am in the process of re-working and building upon what has already been done with this piece. I have a lot of work ahead of me to get it right. Once I feel that I have a basic shape to it, I will post it again for comments.

[Deleted]

Attached is an update on this piece. I am feeling kind of stuck regarding material to add on from my current end point. If anyone has a musical idea to suggest (or perhaps an image to suggest to me), then I would appreciate that. Again, I can post the Sibelius 6 file or a pdf if anyone wishes.

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